Minister at the Ministry: 7 years ago, the State Council wants to capacity | | Li overcapacity _ news

CPPCC National Committee member, miit Minister Li Yizhong.

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Yesterday, Premier Li keqiang said in response to capacity problems in the Chinese and foreign reporters asked said that in the heavy chemical industry and other fields do have serious excess capacity, select steel, coal two breakthroughs in the field, away from the capacity to avoid large-scale "layoffs surge."

Recently, the Standing Committee of the CPPCC, miit Minister Li Yizhong at group discussions of the CPPCC central topic when it comes to implementing the capacity to form a consensus, the use of market-oriented measures, but also to carry out responsibility. His "capacity the Government not a timetable," said if there are no targets, timetables, it means that no place, no accountability.

"This is not the Administration, but the role of Government. "Li said bluntly in the past five years to complete the arduous task of production capacity, but" must be dry, if not dry, may lead to greater losses. "

　　Excess capacity from the "no debt" to "admit"

Li Yizhong said, 7 years ago, central importance to excess capacity, the State Council has issued a document that steel, cement, electrolytic aluminum, plate glass, and shipbuilding industries have excess capacity problem, need to resolve.

"I was on the Ministry of research, to the CPPCC also visited several provinces. All macro numbers admit, but specific to themselves, ' I this is not, I do not have anywhere else, I don't really admit '---is excess surplus will not. "He said, because" no debt "so that research had to explain to each other: not investigate overcapacity, but summarize the experience out to resolve.

He believes that at present, overcapacity has been the basic "buy this idea." A consensus is most evident in the overcapacity of steel, coal industry, is not a "cyclical glut", but over the peak, is absolutely excessive, will decline in the future.

"Falling prices diving, led to industry-wide losses also to capacity from the superiors ' command ' as the industry's own requirements. "He said, compared with the 1994 year steel prices, steel price index falling to 56 at the end of last year, fell by almost half; and in the coal industry, currently about two-thirds enterprise at a loss.

　　To draw up technical standards eliminated capacity

Previously issued to capacity target practice, was controversial. Li believed that "Government not a timetable," said, is inappropriate.

"Judging from these features, a lot of action if there is no goal, no task, no timetable, no place, no accountability. "He said, identifying targets and timetables, not administrative measures, but the Government play a role.

He also stressed that these indicators should not be a simple scale to determine Government material consumption and energy consumption, environmental, quality, security, technical standards, enterprises must reform, reform is bad or not up to the standard law out of the market. Also the source, for the absolute excess capacity in industry, such as steel, coal, are not allowed to create a new.

100 billion yuan to capacity requirements policy

On the Central Government in the area of capacity-building measures, Li believes that not only is "hard measures", "policies are in place", is the most typical, fill will put up 100 billion yuan of the prize fund.

Li Yizhong, an account: the next five years, losing 100 million-150 million tons of steel production capacity, some 500,000 workers in need of rehousing; to cut 500 million tons of coal, and involved 1.25 million-1.3 million people, two industry add up to 1.8 million people.

"But make no mistake, this is not a central ' package ' down, businesses, local, should also have corresponding policies and measures to address staffing and asset disposal, two difficulties. "Mr Li stressed.

　　Dialog

　　A new generation of automotive research and development

　　Need collections industry research

South: fostering economic growth "new impetus" to support new energy automobile development central out of the many policy, what do you think of the new energy automobile development?

Li said: for example, pure electric vehicles, over a long period of time is relatively slow, increased to 250,000 cars last year, increased by 4 times, but the amount is still relatively small. "Twelve-Five" during producing 500,000 units, according to estimates of "Thirteen-Five" produced 5 million units. However, compared with 130 million vehicles nationwide, the speed is faster.

South: in the current round of automotive research and development of new energy cars, Internet, how to grasp the core competitiveness as high-speed rail?

Li: This means organizing common technical problems. If a single enterprise to do it themselves, weak, or even redundant. I think the industry should organize, form an industry Alliance, set the power to research.

Such as electric vehicle batteries, is one of the three key technologies in the development of new energy vehicles, involved in energy density, charge time, mileage, life safety, and so on. For a long time on battery technology research and development, we are fighting each other, took a very high price, is a greater distance away from the international advanced level. It is understood that the first two months, led by Nonferrous Metal Research Institute, research departments and companies to research, this way are expected to be faster to reach the international level, the results shared.

Interview: Southern Metropolis reporter Cheng Shuwen interns Chen Lei Zhu Xiuyu

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工信部原部长：国务院7年前就想去产能|产能过剩|李毅中_新闻资讯

全国政协常委、工信部原部长李毅中。

　　南方日报记者 李细华 摄

　　昨日，国务院总理李克强在答中外记者问中回应去产能问题称，在重化工等领域的确产生比较严重的过剩产能，现选择钢铁、煤炭两个领域先行突破，去产能中要避免大规模“下岗潮”。

　　日前，全国政协常委、工信部原部长李毅中在政协分组讨论中曾专题谈到落实去产能要形成共识，多采用市场化措施、更要落实责任。他对“去产能政府不要定时间表”的看法指出：如果没有目标、时间表，就等于没有人落实，没有责任制。

　　“这不是行政手段，而是发挥政府的组织作用。”李毅中直言近五年完成去产能的任务十分艰巨，但“非干不可，如果不干，可能会带来更大损失”。

　　产能过剩从“不认账”到“认账”

　　李毅中谈道，7年前，中央便重视产能过剩问题，国务院曾发文指出钢铁、水泥、电解铝、平板玻璃、造船等多个行业存在产能过剩问题，需要化解。

　　“过 去我在工信部下去调研过，到政协后也去过几个省份。大家是宏观数字上认账，但具体到自己身上，就是‘别的行业有我这行业没有、别的地方有我这里没有，现在 过剩将来不过剩’——— 就是不太认账。”他坦言，由于“不认账”，以致当时调研时还得向对方解释：不是调查产能过剩，而是总结淘汰化解的经验。

　　李毅中认为，目前对产能过剩问题大家已基本“认账了”。一个共识是，在产能过剩最为明显的钢铁、煤炭行业，并非是“周期性过剩”，而是过了峰值、是绝对过剩，今后都将处于下降趋势。

　　“价格跳水式跌落，导致全行业亏损，也让去产能由过去的上级‘命令’变成行业自身要求。”李毅中说，同1994年的钢铁价格相比，到去年底钢铁价格指数落至56，跌落近一半；而在煤炭行业，目前约三分之二的企业处于亏损状态。

　　要制定技术标准用市场淘汰产能

　　此前一些出台去产能目标的做法，一度引发争议。李毅中认为，“政府不要定时间表”的说法，并不妥当。

　　“从这些行业的特色来看，一个大的行动如果没有目标、没有任务、没有时间表，就没有人落实，没有责任制。”李毅中说，确定目标和时间表，并非行政手段，而是政府发挥组织作用。

　　他同时也强调，这些指标不应是简单只以规模来确定，政府要把能耗、物耗、环保、质量、安全的技术标准确定下来，给企业一定的改造时间，改造不好或达不到标准就依法退出市场。还要把住源头，对于产能绝对过剩的行业，如钢铁、煤炭一律不得新建。

　　1000亿元去产能需地方配套政策

　　对此次中央在去产能方面的措施，李毅中认为，不仅是“措施硬了”，“政策制定也比较到位”，最为典型的是，将拿出1000亿元人民币的奖补基金。

　　李毅中算了一笔账：今后五年，钢铁减掉1亿-1.5亿吨产能，大约涉及50万职工需要安置；煤炭要减5亿吨，又涉及125万-130万人，两个行业加起来是180万人。

　　“但不要误解，这不是中央‘包’下来，企业、地方、银行也都应该有相应的政策和措施配套，解决人员安置和资产处置这两个难点。”李毅中强调。

　　对话

　　新一代汽车研发

　　需集合产业力量攻关

　　南都：在培育经济增长“新动力”方面，支持新能源汽车发展中央出了很多政策，你觉得新能源汽车发展速度怎么样？

　　李毅中：比如纯电动汽车，过去较长一段时间还比较慢，去年增加到25万辆，一下增加了4倍，但总量还是比较小。“十二五”期间累计生产50万辆，据测算“十三五”要累计生产500万辆。不过，跟全国1.3亿台汽车保有量相比，这个速度还是要加快。

　　南都：在本轮新能源汽车、互联网汽车研发中，怎样才能像高铁那样掌握核心竞争力？

　　李毅中：这就要组织行业共性技术攻关。如果光靠单个企业自己去做，就势单力薄，甚至是低水平重复。我认为，行业内部应该组织起来，形成一个产业联盟，集合力量去攻关。

　　比 如电动车的电池，是新能源汽车发展的三个关键技术之一，涉及到能量密度、充电时间、续航里程、寿命安全等。过去很长时间内对电池技术的研发，大家都是各自 为战，花了很大代价，离国际先进水平还是有较大距离。据了解，前两个月，由有色金属研究院牵头，研究部门和大企业共同攻关，这个路子就对了，估计可以比较 快地达到国际水平，成果大家共享。

　　采写：南都记者 程姝雯 陈磊 实习生 朱修玉

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